“I’m into the idea of making stuff that doesn’t look like a book cover … something that doesn’t look like it fits perfectly in” – Steve Leard’s Cover Meeting podcast is back with a second season of talks with book cover designers, kicking off with one of my favourites, Jack Smyth, talking about working with art directors as a freelancer, the growing scourge of design-by-committee and why we don’t need more quotes on covers; followed by Sarah Wasley, Production Director and Design Director (aka “the bossy person that sets deadlines”) of Granta Books, on the importance of developing a thick skin by working in-house before going freelance, and how she collects freelancers like Pokémon.